Chit Chat 24

Snow threatened here and it’s very cold, -3C today. Have just booked a two week stay in Fuertaventura  for some winter sun. Going in February. Husband has bad head cold at the moment and been ill three days. We had to cancel lunch out Sunday and it’s Oscar’s birthday party tomorrow so hope he’s better and we can go. He’s said he will skip his beloved golf tomorrow morning! Shows things are bad.l
Lot of Covid about here as well.

Wow, 2Anne!  That sure is cold!

Anne...
...you just brought back my memories of my holiday many years ago in Lanzarote...i believe those two to be close island neighbours..

I've been up, since 2:30 am. Strong storms moving through, and I thought I would sip coffee and keep an eye out. The dogs aren't too happy about all the thunder.

No thunder here.  But we have snow that hopefully will change to rain soon.  Sheri has to go to Michigan human services, we want to go get her car, and we also talked about joining a fitness center.

We are getting much needed rain here and thankful the temp is above freezing.

I am going to get my truck back today.  I will call them soon for the lady will come and get me.  Thankful I live a block from the repair shop. And it will cost me $175 to tell me they could not find anything wrong.  So maybe it was the fuse. They did test everything for me so guess that is not too much money.

Anyway asking for ya'll to keep me in prayer that all goes well with the truck.  I do have a skin doctor appointment in the next town over on Thursday.  Sure don't need to get stranded.

You got it, Glad!

I did a post on here earlier, it’s dissapeared and this is not the first time this has happened. Most annoying!

After they received recognition in that movie, those gremlins think they can do anything!

2Anne that happens to me a lot.  I do not like this lap top.  Sometimes I touch a key and everything disappears and I don't know which key it was to know for the future.


Hope all is well this Wednesday.

I drove the truck to the grocery store in town and no problems.  Tonight will take it to Wed night church.  I sure missed my truck for two weeks.  When I opened the curtains this morning and saw it I said thank you LORD......I do have something that runs and that is most important and no big truck payment.

Guess what!  Sheri and I joined a gym here in Allegan today.  But the guy there told me that for it to help me, I have to actually go there!  I told Sheri that I won't be going to the yogurt classes and such.

Ah, man! Twisting yourself into a pretzel doing yogurt, is good for the mind?

Windwalker wrote:Ah, man! Twisting yourself into a pretzel doing yogurt, is good for the mind?

My body doesn't move that way anymore.

Yogurt?? I thought that was something you would eat??

Glad E Olah wrote:Yogurt?? I thought that was something you would eat??

I looked it up, I guess I should have said Yoga, or is that the name of a bear that's smarter than your average bear?

I loved the store yogurt in America. Chocolate cake and red velvet cake, less than a 100 calories. Tasted great. Loved the coffee creamer too, not available in uk.

We're getting rain and some snow last night.
It sure is cold enough for me. Even the doggie was ready to go inside
after doing his business today. Did I mention that I LOVE that dog?
My daughter, Gr.daughter and I visited my son yesterday. He had fallen 
twice and should have been getting medical care, but refused. 
He overmedicates to escape his loneliness without Amy. 

2Anne, prayer that your husband feels well soon.

Today I heard a loud thumping sound outside. Wishing to know the
source I decided to walk to the mailbox. Sure enough a young male
who lives across our drive, a few trailers down, was creating the noise. 
I saw his door open, walked onto his porch, calling his name. As his door 
was open. I asked if he was alright. He asked if I was from somewhere I 
didn't understand. I said no, and did he need help. He told me either that 
he was burying the dead or something. I told him to close his door to keep
the warm inside. He actually listened to me and closed his door. Ronnie is 
either Autistic of some other disability and usually doesn't talk to me.

I'm praying for your Son, nell, and also for Ronnie.  They both sound like they need friends.

Looking to have a relaxing day. It should rain, and that is a good reason for staying inside and doing very little. Awfully mild outside at 53F so that indicates a good possibility of storms.

LFF, thank you SO much. I didn't get to visit him today
due to snowfall. I dare not risk driving to Taylor in this weather.
Amy's stepdaughter had groceries sent to him. She is a gem
and we really appreciate her.

Sheri wants to go to the gym tonight.

OK, I just hope the snow isn't as prolific there as it is here.
If you go (Dear Lord, please send LFF's guardian Angel with 
him wherever he goes. In the name of Jesus, Amen)

Thank you, nell.  Sheri does the driving when we go anywhere together.

I hope your son gets stronger, Nell. Prayers to him, and the guy across the road. We can all use prayer at times.

Windwalker wrote: We can all use prayer at times.

That's for sure!

Please also pray that one day our UK laws change and will accept - legalise a " Dignitas " ( a place to go - the right to choose when to end ones life ) here in UK...I know, like many, i will be in that queue, re, my Primary Progressive Multiple Sclerosis..

I would like to pop down to Boots and buy a farewell pack if diagnosed with dementia or similar. Trouble is old people would be very vulnerable to thieving families after an early inheritance and you can’t avoid this happening.

That's greed raising it's ugly head

Some have no families to worry about...I know this can and will be a controversial subject to talk about but until a person is living in that body...So many have done already - are doing now, going to Switzerland to dignify their own death...Trouble is you need a passport, easier said than done...I wasted passport money because they would not accept the photos i kept sending, so my deadline time ran out..Anyway hopefully it will eventually be legalised in Scotland...I was born in Edinburgh although i am of British nationality, i shan't go into the explanation of how...

Self-euthanasia shouldn't be controversial.  It should be legal and praying about it beforehand.

There is only one question i would like answered, and that would be by God - Jesus...would it be " aproved " by Them?

I think with a terminal and painful disease God would understand. I agree with you LFF. Dignitas charges £20,000 for giving a few pills. Absolute extortion. NHS obsessed with keeping you alive regardless and they have the monopoly.

Should be a decision between A person and God

Good morning all . Snowed in here and now it's the wind chill.

Good evening beautiful Shouters!

It costs £10,000, how much is it costing our NHS in keeping us alive, or carehome charges...and what about the quality of life that a person is left to live in...What is money when the quality of your life has come to an end...You cant feed yourself, you cant wipe your backside when going to the loo, you cant dress yourself, etc etc...It is desperation and loss of dignity, and as the old expression goes as for money " you cant take it with you " but you can, if you choose to, use it, " to take you "

Once or maybe twice a year i get a 5 or 10 minute telephone or face to face consultation with my MS Clinician, then maybe a home visit follow-up with the one only allocated MS Specialist Nurse, who also has another 400-450 MS patients within her catchment area...All my working life i paid into the NHS, and when i now need it, where is it...


British membership of Switzerland assisted dying organisation Dignitas is at an all-time high with an 80% increase in the last decade to 1,528 current members. Dignitas yesterday (Wednesday 1st March 2023) released its annual figures showing membership numbers and the numbers of assisted deaths at its assisted dying organisation in Switzerland. British membership has more than doubled since 2009 (then 724) and rose by 6.6% in 2022 alone.

Thirty three Brits had an assisted death at Dignitas in 2022, a 44% increase from 2021. This is the highest number since the pandemic began, and the overall fifth highest number of annual British deaths at Dignitas since the first British person was assisted to die there in 2002. Before the pandemic, around 50 Brits a year – approximately one a week – on average died with assistance in Switzerland at Dignitas, which is the only provider to publicly release statistics, and other facilities. During the pandemic, when travel restrictions were in place, the number of British assisted deaths at Dignitas halved between 2019 and 2020.

Life insurance should also be considered, as If a death occurs while the suicide and contestable clauses are in effect, the claim will be reviewed for material misrepresentation, which if found, may render the policy contract voidable.
There are states here that allow death with dignity.  In such states, the rules concerning insurance payouts may be different. However, insurers usually insert their own clauses in death with dignity cases which may affect the distribution of death benefits.  And the contracts vary by state and the insurance company.

Very interesting stats Jackie, I was told the higher figure at Dignitas, it’s still a lot of cash at £10 K. LFF, you are right about life insurance, it would be voided with assisted suicide. The whole thing is very vexed, we should have the right to die if we have terminal illness but safeguards cannot be implemented. I have some strong sleeping pills. Five would be the one way ticket, so if the need arose I have made provision. People seem to be able to buy barbiturates which Dignitas use on the internet.

LFF...
...i omitted to mention the valid point you rightly mention...life insurances validity ...if indeed we have any...yes an obstacle that would need to change especially if a Dignitas ever does get voted in here in UK...People are already taking there own lives because of our no Dignitas laws..

Well back from morning church, i didn't go through for a cuppa... just had one when i got home...

There shouldn't even be a charge to start with, IMHO. When you decide to slip the bonds of this life, just do it on your own, more dignified, no fuss over rights etc. Have an iron clad will, for distribution of your possessions, etc. 

I hope, none of us ever have to go that way. I think I'd rather just drift off to sleep one night, and that be it. No worry, no anxiety, easier on the family. 

"I've left a note to friends, that a box of tasers are to be distributed, and the last one standing, gets all my stuff!"

Windwalker...
...oh, wouldn't we all like to go just like that...that is the first thing i think of when i wake up-get up, another night i was not taken, another day to get through in this PP-MS body of mine...

This has been a good subject to discuss.

LFF...
...well it might not be everyone's idea of a good subject to discuss...but if anything, it has been thought provoking and not been dismissed...

Good afternoon all.

Good afternoon Naiwen

I know I responded to this topic ? 
Did I neglect to post it? I detest when that happens. I probably had 
the most inspiring bit of verbiage anyone has had the privilege of
feasting their brain on. Oh well, nothing ventured/nothing gained.
I cannot recover the gems of wisdom.

I know that too.  Once they're gone, they're gone,

Another cool morning, here in the South. Nothing planned for today, I got my shop swept out yesterday evening. New bedding for the chicken coop to keep them warm.

Not much going on today....trying to get the on line bills paid (doesn't matter if it is a holiday for on line payments).  I always dread turning loose of the money but hey I want internet, gas for heat and electricity so have to pay them.  Also my monthly Sams order gets paid too.

The pot of beans simmering on the stove smells so good!

Sympathise Glad, just paid my annual income tax today. Feeling robbed. January special.

Got a call from express scripts today.  My Moun Jaro went up from 105 dollars to 384.

What’s that about LFF? It’s more than double.